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First published in Militant 17 june 1988
I interviewed Esteban Volkov in a room in the Trotsky Museum in Coyoacan, of
which he is the curator. On the night of 24 May 1940, Esteban Volkov, then only
14 years old, was wounded in a brutal machine-gun attack by Stalinist supporters,
from which the Trotsky family miraculously escaped alive. With no visible emotion,
Esteban showed me the bullet holes which still remained in the wall of what
had once been his bedroom. In the room alongside the study where his grandfather
was murdered by a Stalinist agent, I questioned him about his past.
Alan Woods: Your family has suffered dreadfully at the hands of the Stalinists.
Your father and sister were sent to concentration camps, and your mother, Zina,
was persecuted to the point where she committed suicide. What recollections
do you have of them and of your early childhood in Russia?
EV: About Russia I have only the haziest memories. I had a half-sister a bit
older than myself. She stayed behind in Russia and, as you say, was sent to
concentration camps. Nothing more was heard of her. I suppose it is just possible
that she might still be alive. But I have heard nothing from her.
About my father I have no memory at all. He was arrested when I was very young.
A few years ago Pierre Broué sent me a photograph he had discovered when doing
some research. That was the first time I got to know what my father looked like.
As for my mother, she was separated from me when I was seven years old, when
she went to Berlin for treatment for a nervous disorder. That was at the time
when Hitler was on the point of coming to power. I only learned of her death
a year afterwards. They decided to keep the news from me.
AW: And your grandfather?
EV: My first recollection is when I arrived in Turkey with my mother, on the
island of Prinkipo where my grandfather was living in exile with my adoptive
grandmother, Natalya. I lived there for about a year. I remember accompanying
him on fishing expeditions among the islands in the sea of Marmora. I was five
years old then. That was the first time I met my grandparents.
In August 1939 1 finally went to live with them in Mexico, one year before the
assassination. I travelled to Mexico with Alfred and Marguerite Rosmer. I was
then thirteen years of age, so I can remember a lot more.
AW: Can you describe the life of the Trotsky household in Mexico?
EV: We were a numerous 'family'. There were comrades from many nationalities.
There were Germans, and I remember also a Czech comrade, but mostly Americans,
all of whom came to help defend the family. They were from all walks of life,
including some workers. One was a lorry driver, Jackie Cooper. There was a painter
called Harold Robbins and another was a teacher called Charlie Cornell.
AW: How do you remember your grandfather's work?
EV: He was a tremendously active and extremely dynamic person. He always got
up very early and used to spend some time feeding the chickens and rabbits,
which were a source of food for us before getting down to work. That was his
way of getting a bit of physical exercise. You must remember that he was virtually
locked up in this house, with no other opportunity of getting about. After that
he had breakfast, and then spent virtually the whole day in his study, till
5, 6 or 7 o'clock, reading and working on his books and manuscripts. Then at
night there were usually political discussions with the comrades.
AW: Can you say something about the assassination attempt led by the
Stalinist Siqueiros on the night of 24 May 1940?
EV: In the weeks and months prior to this attempt you could sense an increasing
tension in the house. The attacks in the Mexican Stalinist press were becoming
increasingly virulent. This already indicated that some kind of physical attack
was being prepared.
About four o'clock in the morning, I heard the garden gates being suddenly thrown
open, and shortly afterwards there was a tremendous noise of gunfire, and the
place was turned into a battlefield.
I could just make out a silhouette inside my room, and then they opened fire.
Incendiary bombs were thrown inside, which set my room ablaze. I was crouching
behind the bed in a corner of the room. But when I saw the bombs I ran out into
the courtyard and called for my grandfather. This was a great relief for Trotsky
and Natalya who at first feared I had been kidnapped.
AW: You were wounded?
EV: Yes, I was grazed in the foot by a bullet and left a trail of blood on the
floor. Very soon the attackers fled and I could hear voices from all sides.
The whole family got together and were overjoyed to see that we had all survived.
All that is, except for Sheldon Harte, the young American guard who had disappeared.
This worried us all tremendously. (He was later found murdered - AW).
AW: And what do you. remember of your grandfather's assassination?
Did you know his assassin, Jackson?
EV: Mercader? Yes, I remember him. He was one of a number of people who hung
around the place. He took great pains to get on friendly terms with the guards
and also with the Rosmers. He was always doing them little favours, giving them
lifts and so on. But he did not at first express an interest in meeting Trotsky
himself.
AW: That was a tactic?
EV: That's right. It was a means of not drawing attention to himself and arousing
suspicion. He was living with a young American Trotskyist called Sylvia Ageloff
and gave the impression of someone who greatly admired the comrades, and was
anxious to help, without getting openly involved in politics. It was all part
of a tactic. He kept this up for many months.
AW: And do you remember the assassination itself?
EV: I arrived late on the scene. I had been at school all afternoon and was
walking home when I noticed unusual movements around the house, with people
coming and going and a car parked outside. I suddenly felt a strange feeling.
A kind of anguish, like a premonition that something was badly wrong.
I went in and saw a, lot of people in a state of tremendous agitation. Some
policemen were holding on to Mercader who had been beaten up by the guards and
was bleeding. He was completely beside himself, weeping and blubbering. Then
I went into the study and saw my grandfather stretched out on the floor. It
seems he had told them to keep me away. That made a big impression on me that
with his dying breath he should be so concerned about a child. Shortly afterwards
the ambulance came and took him away.
AW: Now to pass on to the field of politics, how would you describe
yourself politically?
EV: Well, as you know, I am not a member of any political party. However, I
would describe myself as a Marxist because I consider that Marxism is the only
valid political theory in the modern world.
AW: But with regard to the hundreds of thousands of comrades who perished
under the Stalin terror, including so many members of your own family, how would
you describe your own involvement in the fight for their political rehabilitation?
EV: I believe that any person who sincerely defends the ideas of socialism is
under a moral obligation to fight to re-establishh the truth about the history
rbf: the Russian revolution and for the rehabilitation of all Stalin's victims,
and to denounce all the crimes and falsifications of Stalinism. It is necessary
to fight to ensure that never again will such a monstrous regime be allowed
to exist, and worst of all under the name of 'socialism' and 'communism'.
AW: And the Moscow trials?
EV: It is imperative that all those monstrous falsehoods be exposed and denounced,
and that every page should he expunged and cleansed, so that there is not the
slightest remnant of the slanders used to blacken a whole generation off revolutionaries.
The process must be carried through to the end.
AW: You are aware that this cause is receiving ever wider support in
the labour movement internationlly. You know that in - Britain we are launching
a major campaign for the rehabilitation of Trotsky and the old Bolsheviks. Is
there anything you would like to say to the comrades in Britain and other countries
who are fighting along these lines?
EV: Only to say that these activities have my wholehearted support. They are
fundamental for the health of the entire working-class movement. The record
must be put straight. The falsifiers of history must be branded as traitors
to socialism. Stalinism has been one of the most serious setbacks suffered by
the cause of socialism in the whole of its history. There is no doubt that socialism
will triumph in the end. But this represented a colossal reverse of the historical
process.
AW: While we are on the subject, could you say what you think of the
present situation in Russia and the Gorbachev 'reforms'?
EV: There can be no doubt that the winds of change are blowing. There is a change
- though how far it will go remains to be seen. The main thing is that the whole
system has now reached a blind alley. They can't go any further down that road.
The bureaucratic system is in crisis. There is no way they can go badeto the
old system of open dictatorship as under Stalin.
AW: Do you still think the October Revolution was justified in the
light of the experience of Stalinism?
EV: Of course it was! Whether we like it or not, the historical process is full
of all kinds of ups and downs, including violent upheavals, involving tremendous
human suffering. But nevertheless society moves forward. The October Revolution
was one of the greatest events in the whole of history. The fact that it subsequently
took a different course, arising out of the concrete situation in Russia ai
that time, and the fact that the revolution did not spread to other countries,
does not alter that fact in any way. Don't forget that in France too, after
the revolution of 1789-93, there were important setbacks, but in the long run
the revolution - in this case the bourgeois revolution - succeded in consolidating
itself.
AW: Do you believe the bureaucracy in Russia can abolish itself?
EV: Well, in as much as society requires skilled personnel to run industry,
technicians and so forth, they have an important role to play. The problem arises
when, as happens in Russia, the bureaucracy acquires enormous privileges and
constitutes itself into the ruling elite, which devours a large part of the
surplus produced by the working class and lives on the backs of the workers.
Power must pass from the hands of the bureaucracy into the hands of the working.
class as a whole. There must be a genuine workers' democracy that would involve
the rural proletarians and also the technicians, scientists and other layers
who under modern conditions, in my view, should really be regarded as part of
the proletariat.
AW: Could, you say something about your role as curator of the Trotsky
Museum?
EV: Despite an acute shortage of resources, we are striving to maintain the
building as far as possible just as it was when Trotsky lived and worked here.
We have help from young people who come to work here. Of late the Mexican government
has also begun to give assistance.
AW: How many visitors do you get on average?
EV: It varies from day to day, sometimes 50, sometimes 30. We also get groups
of schoolchildren of 100 or 200.
AW: I was struck by the fact that there are quite a number of signatures
of visitors from the Soviet Union, some of whom have even left messages of support.
EV: Yes indeed. Times have changed a lot! You can see how. the people are gradually
losing their fear of expressing their thoughts. These days they are not only
willing to sign their names, but, as you say, leave messages. The latest one,
earlier this year, said the following: "After Bukharin, the next revolutionary
to be rehabilitated in the USSR will be Leon Trotsky."
AW: That is of enormous symptomatic importance. And what do you think
of the rehabilitation of Bukharin?
EV: Well, it seems to be a step in this direction, doesn't it? Of course, we
must bear in mind that Bukharin stood on the right wing of the party and therefore
it was far easier for the bureaucracy to accept him than it would be in the
case of Leon Trotsky who was implacably opposed to it. Evidently Bukharin, with
his policy of concessions to the capitalist element was more acceptable to Gorbachev.
AW: As a Marxist and someone who believes in the socialist future
of. mankind, would you like to give your view of the future?
EV: I consider it indisputable that mankind must arrive at a form of society
which is at harmony with itself. How can we continue to live on an atomic minefield,
squandering colossal resources, while millions are suffering from the lack of
the minimum necessities of human existence?
The level of technological development is more than sufficient to provide
abundance for the whole human race. It seems absurd that the perpetuation of
an outlived social structure based on class inequality and exploitation should
continue to be the cause of artificial shortages and enormous suffering. The
development of science and technique in itself provides the'answer to all these
problems, if it were placed on a harmonious and planned basis.
AW: In conclusion, do you have any message to British workers and socialists?
EV: Only to encourage them to keep the banner of socialism flying, to rally
to the ideas of Marxism and never to give up the fight for the real socialist
society
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